Montgomery County
A three-man plant, and an approved source next door that is not it
This village carries one crushed-stone row: the St. Johnsville Plant, a limestone operation MSHA records with 3 employees under Heidelberg Materials Northeast. That is the second smallest registration the operator holds anywhere in New York, ahead only of the Oakwood Plant at Auburn with 2, and it sits a long way below the same company’s Jamesville Plant in Onondaga County at 35. The node’s coordinates lie 1.59 miles from the Census centroid of the village.
There is an entry in NYSDOT’s approved source register 0.36 miles away, listed as a granular material source — and it is not this quarry. Its recorded name matches neither the plant nor its operator, so the survey reports it as a neighbour and claims nothing about it. What a neighbour that close does establish is the coordinate itself: an approved source really does sit beside this point.
Montgomery County holds four rows in all, and the other three are clustered at Amsterdam down the Mohawk — Cushing Stone with 8 employees, the Pattersonville Plant with 7, and a rail yard.
Reading the numbers
Eight restrictions, and not one of them is below an empty truck
Those figures describe the plant. The road around it reads differently from most.
Within ten miles the 2025 National Bridge Inventory records 126 structures. Six are coded posted for load on item 41 and eight are coded below legal loads on item 70, of which one is county-maintained, and the nearest is 1.59 miles out.
Here is what is unusual. The lowest operating rating among those eight is 22.7 metric tonnes — and that is also the lowest at or above the 11.0-tonne tare of an empty tandem dump, because there is nothing beneath it. On most pages in this survey those two numbers differ, and the gap between them is the band where a bridge will not take a commercial vehicle at all. Here the band is empty: every structure the file codes as restricted still carries an empty truck. The binding figure is 22.7 tonnes, about 25.0 US tons, which admits roughly 11.7 tonnes of stone over that tare.
Read it in three bands and the point is plainer. Below 11.0 tonnes nothing commercial crosses even empty; between 11.0 and 36.3 the crossing takes a truck only part loaded; at or above 36.3 a legal load crosses whole. All eight of these sit in the middle band, and the county tier holds just one of them — which matters, because New York is a four-tier network in which the state maintains 43.2% of its structures and counties 35.7%, with towns and municipalities holding the rest.
FHWA National Bridge Inventory 2025; items 21, 41, 64 and 70. Ratings are the gross weight of the rating vehicle, not a payload.
New York weight law
The ground asks for a part load, and the statute sets the rest
So the ground here asks for a part load at eight crossings, and the ceiling on a full one is set by statute.
Vehicle and Traffic Law § 385 caps gross weight at 80,000 lb, and at 82,000 lb where the engine runs primarily on natural gas. Beneath that ceiling New York allows 22,400 lb on a single axle and 36,000 lb on two consecutive axles less than eight feet apart, against federal figures of 20,000 lb and 34,000 lb. The single-axle figure is the finding: every other state read in this survey sits at 20,000, and New York is the only one that raises the single axle rather than the tandem.
Federal limits govern the interstate system, so those higher figures are state-highway ones and a truck loses them at the ramp. New York also issues divisible-load overweight permits, all of them restricted to named routes; no maximum gross under them was established and none is claimed here.
N.Y. Veh. & Traf. Law § 385. Information, not legal advice.
Town roads and the lien clock
Two instruments the bridge file cannot show you
Beyond the bridges, and beyond the county tier that holds one of those eight, there are two instruments no structure file records.
The first is a town’s. Vehicle and Traffic Law § 1660(11) lets a town temporarily exclude from any portion of any town highway a vehicle over four tons, and the exclusion takes effect on the erection of signs. Four tons is 8,000 lb — about 3.63 metric tonnes, below the tare of an empty tandem dump. So it does not cap a load; it bars the vehicle, loaded or empty. Nothing in the National Bridge Inventory records it, because a town exclusion is a sign on a road rather than a posting on a structure.
The second matters if the truck has been sitting at a shop. Lien Law § 184 gives a garage a lien for towing, storage, maintenance and repair supplied at the owner’s request — and the clock has an unusual shape. The lien becomes void if the lienor, more than thirty days after it accrues, lets the vehicle out of his actual possession. New York fixes no days-to-sale at all and fixes the possession rule instead, where Florida fixes 35 days to sale for a vehicle over three years old. Where a written estimate was given, the lien may not exceed it.
N.Y. Veh. & Traf. Law § 1660(11); N.Y. Lien Law §§ 184 and 201-a. Information, not legal advice.
New York paperwork
We need a title — unless it never had one
Those cover the road and the shop. The paperwork comes down to one sentence.
Everything after that is a fix rather than a category. A lost title has a counter replacement; where none exists there is a bonded route. New York brands a vehicle salvage under Vehicle and Traffic Law § 429 where the cost of parts and labour to rebuild it to its pre-accident condition exceeds seventy-five per cent of the retail value of the vehicle at the time of loss.
One New York particular is worth knowing if the truck is going off the road for good: the plates must be surrendered before the liability insurance is cancelled. Cancelling first triggers a notice to the DMV and a lapse, and the receipt, form FS-6T, is what proves the order of events. An apportioned plate goes back by post with the cab card and the IRP schedules, and a third-party surrender service cannot take one — which is the path that applies to a quarry truck that has been crossing a state line.
N.Y. Veh. & Traf. Law § 429; New York DMV, plate surrender and apportioned registration. Information, not legal advice.
What we buy in St. Johnsville
Which brings it back to the truck, and the offer does not depend on which one you have. Dump trucks and aggregate haulers off the limestone 1.59 miles out. Day cabs, box trucks, flatbeds, rollbacks, service bodies, and the work trucks and pickups that go out with a crew.
We buy all of them, anywhere in Montgomery County, from the village up onto the hill roads either side of the Mohawk. A three-man plant does not run a large fleet, and the trucks around a small operation like this one are exactly the trucks people call us about.
We buy complete trucks. If the engine, transmission, doors, rear ends, drive shafts, wheels or anything under the hood have been removed, we can’t buy it. Small things — a missing bumper — are fine.
Straight answers
The questions we get asked in St. Johnsville
- Does it have to run?No. It does have to be complete — if the engine, transmission, doors, rear ends, drive shafts, wheels or anything under the hood have been removed, we can’t buy it. Rust is not a disqualifier.
- The engine is out of it. Is that different?Yes, and that is the line. A tired engine is fine; an engine that has been pulled out and sold means we can’t buy the truck.
- What about the title?We need one unless the truck is old enough that it never had one. A lost title has a counter replacement; where none exists there’s a bonded route.
- Will a posted bridge stop the tow?Eight of the 126 structures within ten miles are coded below legal loads, one of them county-maintained, and the nearest is 1.59 miles out. The lowest rating among them is 22.7 metric tonnes, which is above the weight of an empty tandem dump, so every one of them still carries an empty truck. Routing is our end of it.
- The truck has been at a garage for months. Does that stop the sale?Not by itself, but tell us early. A New York garage can hold a lien for towing, storage and repair, and it is worth knowing what is owed before we agree anything.
- Do you buy outside the village?Anywhere in Montgomery County. The county’s three other rows are all down the Mohawk at Amsterdam — Cushing Stone with 8 employees, the Pattersonville Plant with 7, and a rail yard — and the plant here sits 1.59 miles from the village centre.
Why people call
Beyond a truck that has worn out on loaded runs, the reasons are personal ones. Retiring. A business that changed shape. A driver whose DOT physical did not go the way it used to.
Most of those are not happy reasons and we do not treat them like they are. Somebody wants a straight answer and the truck gone. That is what we are here for, anywhere in Montgomery County — and the 1.59 miles out to that limestone, or the run down the Mohawk to Amsterdam, is our side of the map rather than yours.
New York weight and title rules current as of August 2026 — verify with the New York DMV and NYSDOT before acting on them. Sources: the New York Consolidated Laws, the New York DMV, the NYSDOT approved source register, the FHWA National Bridge Inventory 2025, MSHA, plus the central node list.